1 00:00:15,300 --> 00:00:17,465 I'm going to work at Woolworth's 2 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:20,065 When I grow up I want to be an astronaut 3 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:22,600 When I get married I want to have two children 4 00:00:22,635 --> 00:00:26,400 My only wish is to see my dad 5 00:00:26,435 --> 00:00:29,300 I don't want to answer that 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,200 This is not a trip to the zoo. like any other 7 00:00:34,235 --> 00:00:36,565 It is a very special occasion 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,600 We have gathered these children for the first time 9 00:00:41,500 --> 00:00:43,265 They are like any other child 10 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:46,800 except they come from social backgrounds very different 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:48,765 Stop it now! 12 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,200 We have gathered these children to take a look 13 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:55,565 to England in the year 2000 14 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,600 The employee and the executive of the year 2000 15 00:00:58,635 --> 00:01:01,100 now they are seven years old 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,665 In 1964 World in Action made the documentary "Seven Up" 17 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:10,900 Every seven years we have returned to record their lives 18 00:01:10,935 --> 00:01:13,700 They are now 42 years old 19 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,300 Is it important to fight? Yeah! 20 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,700 Tony grew up in the East End of London 21 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:34,300 When I grow up I want to be a jockey 22 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:41,050 At fourteen he was already an apprentice 23 00:01:41,085 --> 00:01:44,000 at Tommy Gosling's stable in Epsom 24 00:01:44,035 --> 00:01:47,100 At fifteen he left school 25 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,600 This is a finished photo of when I ran at Newberry 26 00:01:54,635 --> 00:01:56,165 I am the one with the white cap 27 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,000 They beat me to third place and they took a photo finish 28 00:02:00,035 --> 00:02:03,500 so I took it out of the box and I kept it as a memory 29 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:08,400 At 28 he had already quit racing. 30 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,600 My greatest achievement in life 31 00:02:11,635 --> 00:02:13,165 It was when I ran at Kempton 32 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,365 in the same race with Lester Piggot 33 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,465 I was an innocent apprentice 34 00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:23,400 all my wishes since I was seven years old, all my ambitions were fulfilled in a moment 35 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,165 and in the end I finished last 36 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,500 very far back obviously, but that didn't matter to me 37 00:02:30,535 --> 00:02:33,717 but having been there next to my idol 38 00:02:33,752 --> 00:02:36,900 What will you do if you are not good as a jockey? 39 00:02:36,935 --> 00:02:38,265 Oh I don't know 40 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:41,400 If I knew that I didn't give the width, I'd get out 41 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,165 I wouldn't bother 42 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,100 And what would you do then? 43 00:02:47,135 --> 00:02:49,400 Drive a taxi 44 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:53,550 At 21, he dedicated himself to learning the streets of memory 45 00:02:53,585 --> 00:02:56,200 and at 28 he already had his own taxi 46 00:02:56,900 --> 00:03:00,500 We were on our way to Langlands and I hear Alf Garnett saying 47 00:03:00,535 --> 00:03:03,100 "It's the Labor government and all your people..." 48 00:03:03,135 --> 00:03:05,767 - Do you have a girlfriend? - No 49 00:03:05,802 --> 00:03:08,400 Would you like to have a girlfriend? 50 00:03:08,435 --> 00:03:09,365 No 51 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,365 Do you know the four F's? 52 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,665 Fry, scrub and out. 53 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:16,600 I leave the other F to your imagination. 54 00:03:16,635 --> 00:03:18,765 But with this one 55 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,900 I tried to do the three F's 56 00:03:20,935 --> 00:03:23,000 but I couldn't throw her out 57 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,965 I went to a disco 58 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,165 Before he was in the pub 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,100 and then we went to a disco and Tony was there 60 00:03:32,135 --> 00:03:36,400 And I... that's where it all started 61 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,600 I couldn't get it off me 62 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:45,800 We have our ups and downs like everyone 63 00:03:45,835 --> 00:03:48,917 I am one of those who think that you have to work on your marriage 64 00:03:48,952 --> 00:03:52,000 I think all marriages go through stages 65 00:03:52,035 --> 00:03:54,300 where they can't stand each other 66 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:57,700 One thinks "Oh, God, how much I hate him, I wish he would go away" 67 00:03:57,735 --> 00:03:58,665 I have thought about it 68 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:02,700 We have been on the edge of the precipice a few times 69 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,300 but we have always gone backwards 70 00:04:07,335 --> 00:04:09,665 and we've stayed on the path 71 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:13,450 but I must say that being married it's not easy 72 00:04:13,485 --> 00:04:17,200 And I don't know anyone who says otherwise. 73 00:04:17,235 --> 00:04:19,065 it's very difficult 74 00:04:19,100 --> 00:04:22,900 In 1993 Tony and Debbie They left the East End 75 00:04:22,935 --> 00:04:25,365 and they moved to Woodford in Essex 76 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,100 Well, with the help of my neighbor, I'm not very good with my hands 77 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:34,800 he painted the entire back of the house and I was going to put a terrace there 78 00:04:34,835 --> 00:04:37,065 but if you look around here 79 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:40,200 we put a patio with a pond for the fish 80 00:04:40,235 --> 00:04:43,000 When we bought it it was very old 81 00:04:43,035 --> 00:04:45,365 There were two rooms 82 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,565 We took it down completely 83 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,200 we reorganized the kitchen we put new windows 84 00:04:52,235 --> 00:04:55,765 new apartment, we changed everything actually 85 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,300 We were a little lucky with the fence. because the neighbor 86 00:04:59,335 --> 00:05:02,300 he paid it out of his pocket and did this whole part 87 00:05:02,335 --> 00:05:04,665 So... 88 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:07,300 I was lucky that a part was done 89 00:05:07,335 --> 00:05:09,265 so it was a blessing 90 00:05:09,300 --> 00:05:11,700 The only thing I did was 91 00:05:11,735 --> 00:05:13,965 plant three trees 92 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,900 and it seems that they have been affirmed in the last three or four years 93 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,200 It has cost us a lot of money, yes 94 00:05:21,235 --> 00:05:22,900 a lot of money 95 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,565 And now we are left without even one! 96 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,750 I think we went over budget... 97 00:05:28,785 --> 00:05:31,900 a large number, thousands 98 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:36,600 to keep all this here 99 00:05:36,635 --> 00:05:39,265 at this point an astronomical sum 100 00:05:39,300 --> 00:05:41,300 Will they get out of this financial hole? 101 00:05:41,335 --> 00:05:43,600 No doubt because 102 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,300 Now it seems like I'm carrying an anvil hanging around the neck 103 00:05:47,335 --> 00:05:50,400 But it's nothing I can't get back. in two years 104 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:52,865 working hard and determined 105 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:55,900 To help, Debbie works the taxi during the day shift 106 00:05:55,935 --> 00:05:58,100 while Tony works the night shift 107 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,600 - Look, son, you have to work hard - Come on, you still can't reach me 108 00:06:02,635 --> 00:06:05,465 Good, now get bigger, dominate me 109 00:06:05,500 --> 00:06:09,265 At 28, Tony was taking acting class 110 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:12,900 Now supplement your income with occasional jobs on TV 111 00:06:12,935 --> 00:06:14,000 Hey! 112 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:17,065 It's all I have 113 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:20,100 Dude, if I had a pound for every time I hear that, at this point I would be rich 114 00:06:20,135 --> 00:06:22,500 - Do you have the ticket? - Yes, here I have 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,000 Please everyone sit down, keep working 116 00:06:28,035 --> 00:06:30,300 I don't want to see any backs turned 117 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,200 Nobody turns back. Tony, did you hear? 118 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,800 keep working 119 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:40,700 Tony! 120 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:43,200 Don't turn around 121 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:46,365 I only have one ambition: I want a little man son 122 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,000 If I had a little son my wish would be fulfilled 123 00:06:49,035 --> 00:06:51,800 Nobody knows, only you 124 00:06:58,900 --> 00:07:00,465 This is Hackney Marshes 125 00:07:00,500 --> 00:07:02,765 The games played here are these. The pub teams are there 126 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,000 I have played for almost 28-30 years 127 00:07:06,035 --> 00:07:09,200 - So you are a veteran? - Yes, you could say so! 128 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:12,700 Who do you play with? 129 00:07:12,735 --> 00:07:14,165 With my Nicky 130 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,400 I find it admirable that a dad be on the same side as your child 131 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:22,365 Tony and Debbie they have three children 132 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,865 The oldest, Nicky, works doing french polishing 133 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:28,565 I wanted him to start studying for taxi driver 134 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,900 I had bought him a bicycle but I am proud of what he does 135 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,600 He is a very respectful boy 136 00:07:34,635 --> 00:07:36,965 He is very respectful of people 137 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,800 and the most important thing is that He has achieved everything with his effort 138 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,200 Perry just started high school. 139 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:52,400 and has its personality but it is very focused on academics 140 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,800 and I hope it continues like this 141 00:07:57,300 --> 00:07:59,200 Referee! Come on, referee! 142 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,200 Come on, referee, hold him there! 143 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,300 We only have 60 minutes left 144 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:15,800 Jody doesn't like school, will soon leave 145 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,800 She has said goodbye many years in high school. 146 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:25,400 I'm not saying it's the school's fault. It's almost all her fault. 147 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,400 but with her we try 148 00:08:29,435 --> 00:08:32,065 She is a little as Tony was. 149 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:36,200 He is not interested in school, I think he will regret it later. 150 00:08:36,900 --> 00:08:38,365 How beautiful! 151 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,300 I try to discipline them in several areas. 152 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,965 but at the end of the day 153 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,865 it's very difficult 154 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:50,500 I would like to stop and suggest and lead with an iron fist 155 00:08:50,535 --> 00:08:54,100 but my heart doesn't give me, that's the truth 156 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:56,900 And I have to do it 157 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,300 If something goes wrong, it will be my fault 158 00:09:00,335 --> 00:09:02,317 A girl the other day told me 159 00:09:02,352 --> 00:09:04,265 he told me "How petite you are" 160 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:07,465 And I told her "But you're ugly. "At least I can grow." 161 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:09,900 What can you say to that? They can't say anything, right? 162 00:09:09,935 --> 00:09:12,200 What made you fall in love with him? 163 00:09:12,235 --> 00:09:14,265 I don't know 164 00:09:14,300 --> 00:09:16,700 I don't know how you've put up with me for so long 165 00:09:16,735 --> 00:09:19,467 Sometimes I don't know how I stand it 166 00:09:19,502 --> 00:09:22,200 I have been in positions where... 167 00:09:22,300 --> 00:09:25,600 It's hard to say it in front of Debbie. but it's true 168 00:09:25,635 --> 00:09:26,965 The temptation 169 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,865 is within reach 170 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:33,200 I go on vacation once a year with the boys to Spain, Magaluf 171 00:09:33,235 --> 00:09:36,600 and we have a day of golf, everything against Debbie... 172 00:09:36,635 --> 00:09:37,565 but it's true 173 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,000 and there I find myself in situations 174 00:09:42,035 --> 00:09:44,017 Life is for living 175 00:09:44,052 --> 00:09:45,965 and I come back 176 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,065 "Oh, I know what you did there!" 177 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:51,100 "You were hanging out with all of them!" what do I know 178 00:09:51,135 --> 00:09:52,065 and 179 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:54,550 They look at you like they want to tell you 180 00:09:54,585 --> 00:09:57,000 "I know but I don't want to know" 181 00:09:57,035 --> 00:09:58,565 That's right 182 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,600 I have often gone through life with one hand tied to the back 183 00:10:02,635 --> 00:10:05,665 and my carefree character 184 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:10,100 and sometimes I have found myself between a rock and a hard place 185 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:15,000 I'm not proud to say it but 186 00:10:15,035 --> 00:10:17,465 situations in which... 187 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:21,600 I have had reprehensible behavior several times 188 00:10:21,635 --> 00:10:22,800 but 189 00:10:23,900 --> 00:10:27,300 They caught you, that's what 190 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,765 I'm not going to lie 191 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,700 one can always hide it and suggest other things 192 00:10:33,735 --> 00:10:36,800 but it's true, and let it be known that it is so 193 00:10:36,835 --> 00:10:39,000 Did you find out? 194 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,500 - Yes - What happened? 195 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:48,500 Well, we were thinking about whether to stay together or not from that 196 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,265 We went through a very traumatic time. 197 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:57,100 He who has never sinned cast the first stone. 198 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:02,600 That doesn't just happen to a taxi driver, happens to a prime minister, etc. 199 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:09,300 I'm not going to hide and suggest that I am holier... 200 00:11:09,335 --> 00:11:11,465 ...which I am not, what I want to say is that... 201 00:11:11,500 --> 00:11:16,600 ...that's real life, If they catch me, then fine. 202 00:11:16,635 --> 00:11:19,365 I will assume the consequences and that implies... 203 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,865 Fix problems with my wife and our marriage. 204 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:27,500 And hopefully, we'll end up coming back everything to its original course. 205 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,665 well, it's... 206 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:31,600 Why did you forgive him? 207 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:37,900 because all the time 208 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:43,900 I felt like there was still something in the relationship. 209 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,750 And there were three children involved too. 210 00:11:48,785 --> 00:11:52,500 It's not easy when you have three small children. 211 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:57,100 And obviously there was still something between Tony and me. 212 00:11:58,100 --> 00:12:01,200 and it's not easy to abandon everything 213 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,000 I could have left 214 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,400 It sounds silly, but when it happened I felt furious 215 00:12:08,435 --> 00:12:11,165 and I could have left it 216 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,065 but it hasn't been easy try again 217 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:19,000 Heal the wounds because I I have never been unfaithful to him. 218 00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:23,265 And that was the most painful thing. 219 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:26,300 And I think I'm a good wife and I didn't deserve that. 220 00:12:26,335 --> 00:12:29,165 The only thing I have in my head is: dogs, prices, women 221 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,600 taxi, streets, squares, mom, dad and love. 222 00:12:32,635 --> 00:12:36,000 It's all I understand and everything I want to understand. 223 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:39,500 Tell me about the family, Are they still very close? 224 00:12:39,535 --> 00:12:41,265 I love you all 225 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:44,700 There is no one whom I love more than another, apart from my mom obviously 226 00:12:44,735 --> 00:12:49,200 but the mother is the root of the tree, the mother is loved more than everything 227 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,300 When he was 35, Tony's parents they had died 228 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,965 I am next to the grave I talk to her 229 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,465 All the images come to me in my mind 230 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:04,900 when he said "Tony, come down and look for me" five cigarettes" 231 00:13:04,935 --> 00:13:06,865 or when I entered the store 232 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:11,400 she let a thread fall through the window with a hair curler 233 00:13:11,435 --> 00:13:15,300 and I tied the cigarettes with the thread 234 00:13:15,335 --> 00:13:17,465 and she uploaded them 235 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:19,465 and she... I see it at the end 236 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:23,700 "Thanks, Tony, I'll see you after school, "behave well" and that's how she was 237 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:28,200 today even 238 00:13:28,235 --> 00:13:30,100 I get... 239 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:33,400 very sentimental with my parents 240 00:13:33,435 --> 00:13:36,100 because 241 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:41,900 on weekends there could be spent his last years here 242 00:13:41,935 --> 00:13:45,365 It would have been good to know 243 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,600 May they spend their last days here with me but for some reason it wasn't 244 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,900 The cuicos? "Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes!" 245 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,100 They are crazy! 246 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,865 You just touch them 247 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:02,600 I don't want to change because if I change 248 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,100 means that the other Tony Walker was a fake 249 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,665 I'm not trying to equate myself to the Joneses 250 00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:13,500 or to appear beyond of my abilities 251 00:14:13,535 --> 00:14:16,765 I mean, I have my limits 252 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,165 I'm just a taxi driver not a movie star by any means 253 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:26,100 I have done what I could and I think these are my limits at this moment 254 00:14:26,135 --> 00:14:28,665 so I'm happy with what I have 255 00:14:28,700 --> 00:14:32,100 If I achieve something more, it's something extra 256 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,400 Tell me, Suzy, do you have a boyfriend? 257 00:14:39,700 --> 00:14:40,900 Yes 258 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:42,665 tell me about him 259 00:14:42,700 --> 00:14:45,650 Lives in Scotland 260 00:14:45,685 --> 00:14:48,600 and I think he is 13 years old 261 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,100 Here I feel a little alone 262 00:14:52,135 --> 00:14:54,765 because he usually goes to school 263 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,900 but we usually play like up half past six 264 00:14:58,935 --> 00:15:01,217 when he comes back from school 265 00:15:01,252 --> 00:15:03,465 Then we went in and 266 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:05,900 he goes home to do homework 267 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,400 Suzy, do you have a boyfriend? 268 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,300 What is your attitude towards marriage? 269 00:15:15,335 --> 00:15:17,100 What is it for you? 270 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:22,300 Well I don't know, I haven't thought about that 271 00:15:22,335 --> 00:15:25,300 Because I'm very, very cynical about it. 272 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:31,150 but then one's faith returns a little 273 00:15:31,185 --> 00:15:34,800 I have friends whose parents They are happily married 274 00:15:34,835 --> 00:15:36,700 and that restores your faith, but 275 00:15:36,735 --> 00:15:39,465 I'm very cynical about it 276 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:44,500 When we saw you at 21 years old, you looked nervous, you smoked a lot and you looked tense 277 00:15:44,535 --> 00:15:47,065 Now you look happy 278 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:51,000 What happened to you during these last seven years? 279 00:15:51,035 --> 00:15:53,265 Well I guess it's because of Rupert 280 00:15:53,300 --> 00:15:56,200 - I give you some credit. - Thank you! 281 00:15:56,235 --> 00:15:59,300 I'm not a chain smoker 282 00:16:01,500 --> 00:16:02,465 I think 283 00:16:02,500 --> 00:16:04,665 you can't go through marriage 284 00:16:04,700 --> 00:16:10,000 and to think that once you get married everything is going to be a garden of roses and happily ever after 285 00:16:10,035 --> 00:16:12,000 one has to... 286 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:15,565 Well, everyone has their problems, but 287 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,265 We have never encountered a problem that we have not been able to overcome 288 00:16:19,300 --> 00:16:24,100 It's hard to say for sure what happens in a couple 289 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:27,400 or there is that something or does not exist 290 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:34,500 Maybe we are lucky that after twenty years old it's still there 291 00:16:34,535 --> 00:16:37,700 When I get married I want to have two children 292 00:16:37,735 --> 00:16:40,700 At the moment I'm not interested have children 293 00:16:40,735 --> 00:16:43,400 I don't know if I'll ever be interested 294 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,800 What do you think of children? 295 00:16:45,835 --> 00:16:48,100 Well I don't like babies 296 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:50,665 What impressed you the most? 297 00:16:50,700 --> 00:16:54,000 seeing you faced with a baby 298 00:16:54,035 --> 00:16:56,400 What were you responsible for? 299 00:16:56,435 --> 00:16:58,265 Panic, I think 300 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,165 of not being able to adapt 301 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:06,000 At 28, Suzy had two children, Thomas and Oliver 302 00:17:06,035 --> 00:17:08,865 I don't think I have more because 303 00:17:08,900 --> 00:17:13,400 I'm going to enjoy these two, but I don't see myself having more and more 304 00:17:13,435 --> 00:17:16,565 At 35, he had his daughter Laura 305 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Very little has changed, my life It's almost the same as before 306 00:17:20,635 --> 00:17:24,200 I had another baby, we moved house and that's all 307 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,500 Would you like a babysitter to take care of you? Or would you like to take care of them yourself? 308 00:17:28,535 --> 00:17:31,100 No, I want a babysitter to take care of them 309 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:39,800 I chose to stay home for the last few 15 years to raise my children 310 00:17:39,835 --> 00:17:43,400 because I wanted to be the one who raised them 311 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:48,500 Now Tom is 16 years old, he is made a man 312 00:17:49,300 --> 00:17:52,900 from one moment to the next I gained confidence 313 00:17:52,935 --> 00:17:55,865 and since he was a shy child 314 00:17:55,900 --> 00:18:00,500 now he got character and has become independent 315 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,300 Oliver is very individualistic 316 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,365 we have like a love-hate relationship 317 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,800 we don't always get along but anyway we overcome almost everything 318 00:18:14,835 --> 00:18:19,200 but it has been a real struggle for him, he has learning problems 319 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:25,900 and life has not dealt him the best cards so it's harder for him 320 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,700 Laura seems to take life with temper, accepts it without further ado 321 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,600 She is very relaxed and accepts life as it comes. 322 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,100 Tom is going to college in a couple of years 323 00:18:48,135 --> 00:18:51,300 and they will continue with their lives 324 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,465 After forty years of life of a change 325 00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:03,500 I don't want to suddenly find that The children are gone and my life is empty 326 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:07,500 I'm not very good at sitting still. Without doing anything, I have to do something 327 00:19:07,535 --> 00:19:11,217 I have to have a purpose or something to fight for 328 00:19:11,252 --> 00:19:14,900 As I went through the stages of mourning 329 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,365 the spaces became more extensive 330 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,100 - But the real pain - It doesn't go away 331 00:19:20,135 --> 00:19:22,200 never disappears completely 332 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:27,400 I went to therapy like four years ago. 333 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,350 It can be very heartbreaking, it's very difficult 334 00:19:32,385 --> 00:19:35,665 That's why therapists they need a supervisor 335 00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:40,600 because sometimes you leave a session mentally and emotionally exhausted 336 00:19:40,635 --> 00:19:43,865 She was assuming better what had happened 337 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:47,300 It is an extraordinary experience when you meet someone 338 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,665 who is suffering terribly 339 00:19:50,700 --> 00:19:54,065 and as the months go by you see that person comes out ahead 340 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:57,100 you see her put her life back together 341 00:19:57,135 --> 00:20:00,400 At 28 years old, Father Suzy passed away 342 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:05,300 It is terribly difficult and until today I can't believe my dad isn't here. 343 00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:08,800 I'm still processing it, I think. 344 00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:11,865 My mom had gotten sick before. 345 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:16,000 but when I started the course, I didn't really know how sick I was. 346 00:20:16,300 --> 00:20:21,300 Then we found out he had terminal cancer. when I was halfway through my course 347 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:28,000 And I wondered if I could continue, because It was very difficult to attend every week. 348 00:20:28,035 --> 00:20:31,500 listen to other people, their experiences, but 349 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,900 somehow it helped me 350 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,400 so I finished my course and my mother passed away right after 351 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:44,265 but I thought it helped me to do it 352 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:49,400 because that's how I thought I wasn't alone, and I think That is the purpose of psychotherapy. 353 00:20:49,435 --> 00:20:53,400 that people feel very alone when you lose someone so close 354 00:20:53,435 --> 00:20:57,665 and there are many who have no one to turn to 355 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:02,200 I was an only child who saw the separation of his parents, he was fourteen years old 356 00:21:02,235 --> 00:21:05,500 a very vulnerable age and that affects you 357 00:21:05,535 --> 00:21:06,700 but 358 00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:09,065 in the end one gets over it 359 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:12,300 I had never had a very close relationship. with my parents 360 00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:19,400 I didn't really know them much, but In the last years of his life we got closer 361 00:21:19,435 --> 00:21:22,665 and I think that's what I resented, I lost it when we got close 362 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:27,000 because I was beginning to forge a relationship with her 363 00:21:28,300 --> 00:21:31,900 When he turned 35 years old, Rupert made a turn in his career 364 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,765 I was a partner in a large law firm. 365 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,665 and I resigned to form my own company 366 00:21:39,700 --> 00:21:45,000 I specialize in renovating old buildings to convert them into offices 367 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:50,200 When Rupert decided to quit It was a very difficult time 368 00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:54,700 He had many responsibilities with us. and it is not easy to set up a company alone 369 00:21:54,735 --> 00:21:59,500 Are you worried about the roof falling and you are left out? 370 00:21:59,535 --> 00:22:01,965 Yes, I mean, it crosses my mind 371 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:09,565 Last year I thought a lot where we could lose everything 372 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:14,700 I never wanted to have a business that puts the house is in danger 373 00:22:14,735 --> 00:22:18,000 but I think that ultimately that can always happen 374 00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:22,800 The bet paid off and the company is doing well 375 00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:28,900 What things do you do? 376 00:22:28,935 --> 00:22:31,900 I ride horses, I swim, I play tennis, ping pong 377 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:35,000 and maybe play croquet 378 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:37,700 something like that 379 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:44,665 I did have a privileged origin 380 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:48,600 but on the other hand, they sent me to boarding school very young 381 00:22:48,635 --> 00:22:50,965 and that's why it was difficult for me to adapt 382 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,700 I'm sure my parents did because they thought it was the right thing to do 383 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,765 I felt rejected 384 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,500 and that's why I didn't want to force to my children 385 00:23:02,535 --> 00:23:04,900 What is your greatest wish in life? 386 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:10,165 Be happy and live life 387 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,850 I don't want to sit still and let everything pass by 388 00:23:12,885 --> 00:23:15,500 You don't know how long you're going to live. 389 00:23:15,535 --> 00:23:18,165 tomorrow they can run you over 390 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,100 so you have to make the most of it while you can 391 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,865 If I could go back, I would change... 392 00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:30,600 I would change my life between 14 and 21, those years were not good for me 393 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:36,100 like any other 14 year old with parents divorced, I felt very lost, disoriented 394 00:23:37,300 --> 00:23:41,500 I would have made better use of my education instead of wasting it 395 00:23:41,535 --> 00:23:44,800 because I thought I knew them all and I didn't want anyone to bother me 396 00:23:44,835 --> 00:23:47,365 but I can't turn back time 397 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:53,500 so I have to forget about that and say: "Yes, it was an unhappy stage of my life" 398 00:23:53,535 --> 00:23:55,700 and continue 399 00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:03,065 Two of the boys are entering to that period of their lives 400 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:07,100 - Are you paying attention to that? - I'm attentive but 401 00:24:07,135 --> 00:24:11,065 I think they will have a family life more stable than the one I had at his age 402 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:16,200 I do not neglect family life Rupert and I have tried to build for them 403 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,800 the only thing I want is... 404 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000 be here long enough, healthy enough 405 00:24:24,035 --> 00:24:27,665 to see my children grow and become independent 406 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:32,100 I can't stand the thought of dying before they grow up 407 00:24:32,135 --> 00:24:35,265 I think that's a fear. of every father 408 00:24:35,300 --> 00:24:40,500 not live long enough to see your children become adults 409 00:24:40,535 --> 00:24:42,000 Excellent! 410 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:45,900 What do you think of the rich? 411 00:24:45,935 --> 00:24:49,400 Umm... not much 412 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:51,265 Tell me about them 413 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:55,100 Well they think they can do anything and one doesn't 414 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,000 Symon grew up in a children's home. 415 00:24:59,035 --> 00:25:02,000 He is the only child of a single mother. 416 00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,565 The rich have everything 417 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,300 they have everything they want while that the poor have nothing 418 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:14,200 and they know that they don't have it all, they know they are missing things 419 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:18,265 What are you missing? 420 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:22,100 Well, I would say a bike and... 421 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,300 a fishing rod 422 00:25:25,335 --> 00:25:27,400 twenty years ago 423 00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:30,300 when I was born 424 00:25:30,700 --> 00:25:32,800 as an illegitimate son 425 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:36,350 that is something that is only rumored 426 00:25:36,385 --> 00:25:39,800 People had a lot of prejudice at that time. 427 00:25:39,835 --> 00:25:42,300 but now it's like... 428 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,565 it's not a bad thing 429 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,900 the bad thing is if you stay with someone or leave it 430 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,565 At 31 years old 431 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:56,600 I got married, I have children 432 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,500 I don't think I would have married anyone other than Yvonne 433 00:26:03,535 --> 00:26:05,965 she is my life because 434 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,800 we are together, we have the children and everything 435 00:26:08,835 --> 00:26:10,565 Look at the parrot, look 436 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,800 When they decided to have all five, Did you want to have them followed? 437 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,065 Yes, because if one is 15 and the other is 6 438 00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:24,900 with the age difference they would not be caught 439 00:26:24,935 --> 00:26:28,700 They wouldn't have grown up together they would not have met 440 00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:34,000 At 35, Symon and Yvonne were divorced 441 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:40,800 At 42, he married Viennetta 442 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:46,300 People go out when they are younger, We met at the laundry room! 443 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,700 - Once a week! - Once a week at the laundry! 444 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,600 How we grew apart 445 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,000 Unfortunately 446 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,165 And we each continue with our lives, we got married 447 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,900 and we met again like six years ago 448 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,900 She already had a teenage daughter, Miriam. 449 00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:16,200 Now Symon and Vinetta They have a four-year-old son named Daniel. 450 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,300 Does it remind you of you as a child? 451 00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:24,065 Oh no, he has a lot more energy than me. 452 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:27,600 It has a little of both, He is very lively and fast 453 00:27:27,635 --> 00:27:29,500 he is very intelligent 454 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:34,400 I like to know how things work so there he looks like me 455 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,700 Why did they name him Daniel? 456 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:39,800 It's a long story! 457 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,200 It's my dad's name 458 00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,065 - Yes - How cute 459 00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:48,300 We decided to name him Daniel before he was born, We didn't know it was a boy. 460 00:27:48,335 --> 00:27:51,165 They ask me "Where is your dad?" 461 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,700 When my mom goes to work, "Where's your dad?" 462 00:27:54,735 --> 00:27:57,200 And I tell them that I don't have 463 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,900 How has that affected you? 464 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:09,400 Well, I don't think it affected because... 465 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,565 one does not miss what one does not have 466 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,300 I mean, it hurts me that he wasn't present, but at the same time... 467 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,200 He wasn't there, he wasn't with me or my mother, so... 468 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,450 I never had a desire to see it 469 00:28:27,485 --> 00:28:30,665 I have like anger inside but... 470 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:35,000 Personally, I would like to see it. out of pure curiosity, but 471 00:28:35,035 --> 00:28:39,300 The anger I have carried for years is... 472 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:45,000 Now it turned into boredom, I'm not even interested in looking for it anymore 473 00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,765 one has everything, then 474 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,000 they even have what one has never had 475 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,500 - What? - A dad! 476 00:28:54,535 --> 00:28:56,967 They have had everything 477 00:28:57,002 --> 00:28:59,400 I still have my five children 478 00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:04,200 They still haven't accepted well the breakup of my first marriage 479 00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:08,765 It's still hard for me to accept it and 480 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,000 make them understand that his dad is still his dad 481 00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,200 Has it been difficult for you? 482 00:29:17,235 --> 00:29:19,165 It has cost me 483 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,000 because I have always been rather withdrawn 484 00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:26,700 It's hard for me to take charge but 485 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,000 I don't want to lose my children 486 00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:37,900 I want you to know that still I'm there for them 487 00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:43,800 At one point I thought that the two families They could meet and everything would turn out well. 488 00:29:43,835 --> 00:29:47,700 But we're not talking about a movie. but of life itself so 489 00:29:47,735 --> 00:29:49,665 things don't always turn out that way 490 00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:54,250 It would be nice if they could stop by and say hello. and enter as you like 491 00:29:54,285 --> 00:29:58,800 as if they were part of the family because They are, why not? 492 00:29:58,835 --> 00:30:00,865 good 493 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:05,365 before I'm old to work 494 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,600 I'm going to see what can find 495 00:30:09,635 --> 00:30:13,365 I wanted to be a movie star but 496 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,400 Now I'm going to be an electrical engineer which is more realistic 497 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:24,400 At 21 years old, Symon worked in a hall chilled sausage Walls in London 498 00:30:24,435 --> 00:30:27,600 How do you see yourself in the future at work? 499 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,000 Well I know I can't stay in Walls oara always, it doesn't go with me 500 00:30:32,035 --> 00:30:35,800 I couldn't stay that long, my brain would dry out 501 00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:38,700 but uh... 502 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:44,765 I think if I put my mind to it I could learn a trade, 503 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:50,600 For now I'm happy here, It doesn't look like they're going to close. 504 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,700 Better the devil known, as they say 505 00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:59,265 Walls closed its doors and Symon He had several jobs in wineries 506 00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:04,500 before arriving at Yuson, a cargo airline where he drives a forklift 507 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:09,300 When I was young I said that I was never going to work in an office 508 00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:13,500 with lateral people in a side office 509 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:19,900 I've done enough hard work to realize that I haven't been in the right jobs 510 00:31:19,935 --> 00:31:22,600 And the brother has big eyes 511 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,000 and it's blue, brother is blue 512 00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:30,265 The year before Symon took his GCSE maths 513 00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:34,100 just like my daughter and they are both trying 514 00:31:34,135 --> 00:31:37,665 Symon got good grades and it happened 515 00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:42,800 More than anything it is a push to find something in that field 516 00:31:42,835 --> 00:31:43,965 because he is good 517 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,800 I dreamed that everyone was on top of me 518 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,665 and everything was on me and when I could get out 519 00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:59,800 everything flew into the air and it fell on my head 520 00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:04,665 Are you still drawing and painting? 521 00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:09,800 I would like to but I never have time to sit down and do something 522 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:14,900 this is so good That she stays away - Yeah 523 00:32:14,935 --> 00:32:17,167 he helps me with Miriam yes 524 00:32:17,202 --> 00:32:19,365 she is going to take her final exam in arts, so 525 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,100 when you have any difficulty Call Symon 526 00:32:23,135 --> 00:32:25,600 and he comes to the rescue 527 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,300 I got it from my mom because she loved the arts 528 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,200 he always took me to the galleries and those things 529 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,400 Was it difficult to move from your own home? to your mother's house? 530 00:32:37,435 --> 00:32:39,400 I find it comfortable 531 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,300 Sometimes I get along with her 532 00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,265 and that's good because many young people 533 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:51,500 They don't get along with their parents at this stage of life 534 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,700 but I get along very well with my mom now 535 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,165 What is your mother like? 536 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,200 It always seems difficult, she has always been nervous 537 00:33:02,235 --> 00:33:05,400 He has his periods of depression 538 00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:09,000 It has made me very protective. with her 539 00:33:09,035 --> 00:33:12,100 I think I should help her all the time. 540 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:16,865 She passed away in 1990, I had cancer 541 00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:21,600 I can't survive to everything they did 542 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,000 Was it difficult? 543 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,165 Yes, for me because 544 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,465 there were many things that I never told him 545 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:34,500 to my mother and that she had liked to tell you 546 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:42,800 things that one thinks about later but Then it's too late because it's not there anymore. 547 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,000 What things? 548 00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:49,900 Well, I love her every day and 549 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,400 I like what you are doing or I don't like this, those little things 550 00:33:57,700 --> 00:34:01,800 Everyone has to get used to it to meet people of color 551 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:07,300 and people of color in turn have to get used to being with white people 552 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:14,000 because if one of the two does not work well neither will work well 553 00:34:14,035 --> 00:34:16,465 They are the same as me, right? 554 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:21,300 Do you think it's hard to be a black man? in today's English society? 555 00:34:21,335 --> 00:34:23,565 It depends on what one wants 556 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,700 if one only wants to live in society so it's not difficult 557 00:34:26,735 --> 00:34:29,917 if you want to face society there it would be difficult 558 00:34:29,952 --> 00:34:33,100 To be honest with you, Michael, I have never been confrontational 559 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,800 I have heard from both sides 560 00:34:35,835 --> 00:34:37,765 to be honest with myself 561 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,265 White people have come to tell me "white people are like this" 562 00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:44,100 and black people have come to tell me "white people this and that", so... 563 00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:48,100 a long time ago I stopped thinking about color 564 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,900 It's still difficult, we still have to fight 565 00:34:52,935 --> 00:34:55,565 you have to keep sweating your shirt 566 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,000 because at work always have to try harder 567 00:34:59,035 --> 00:35:01,317 even in school you have to... 568 00:35:01,352 --> 00:35:03,600 It's like they stereotype you 569 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,465 Even when we moved here, no one has spoken to us 570 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:13,800 I think they suspect that one puts loud music and have loud parties 571 00:35:13,835 --> 00:35:18,817 but we are not all the same, In every nation there are good and bad people. 572 00:35:18,852 --> 00:35:23,800 and as far as I know, we are just like everyone 573 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,100 I just want to be just like the rest 574 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:33,465 nothing out of this world 575 00:35:33,500 --> 00:35:36,300 I feel good about my life 576 00:35:36,335 --> 00:35:38,665 keeping me there 577 00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:42,200 but I know that if I put my mind to it could stand out 578 00:35:42,235 --> 00:35:45,700 I just need a little spark to do it 579 00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:50,300 What is the greatest influence What has Viennetta got on you? 580 00:35:50,335 --> 00:35:53,267 The motivation, I think, because... 581 00:35:53,302 --> 00:35:56,200 Before I never made an effort 582 00:35:57,700 --> 00:35:59,800 she takes care of me 583 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,000 Not only does it pressure me but He also takes care of me 584 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,765 she wouldn't let anything go wrong I passed 585 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,000 always makes sure that I look good 586 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,965 if I go anywhere make me look good 587 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,100 and do the right thing and 588 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:23,100 That makes me feel like I have someone who really loves me 589 00:36:25,335 --> 00:36:28,200 I read the Financial Times 590 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:30,800 I read the Observer and the Times 591 00:36:30,835 --> 00:36:33,100 Why do you like it? 592 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:39,200 Well I look at the headlines and I read 593 00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:41,200 ...about that 594 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:43,500 What is the purpose of the program? 595 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,200 The purpose is to establish a comparison 596 00:36:47,235 --> 00:36:49,200 and I don't think it is 597 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:52,000 - Good point - Because we are not typical examples 598 00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:55,100 and I think that could come What people who watch this program think 599 00:36:55,135 --> 00:36:56,800 something false 600 00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,400 That is, they tend to pigeonhole us 601 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,400 Everything we say, they are going to think... 602 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:06,450 "ah, that's the typical result of public education" 603 00:37:06,485 --> 00:37:09,400 That's one of the problems with this kind of programs 604 00:37:09,435 --> 00:37:11,800 I believe that people like us 605 00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:15,400 unless we are seven years old and let's be funny, we don't have... 606 00:37:15,435 --> 00:37:18,000 interesting things to say, because... 607 00:37:18,035 --> 00:37:20,100 we don't know much 608 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,200 When we were seven years old we didn't know much 609 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,800 - But we're still funny - At least we're funny! 610 00:37:24,835 --> 00:37:25,700 - Yeah! - Yeah! - By themselves! 611 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,350 I agree with John, we can only say what we think 612 00:37:28,385 --> 00:37:30,900 And if that interests people, good for them 613 00:37:30,935 --> 00:37:33,700 I will go to Charterhouse 614 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:39,500 and then to Trinity Hall Cambridge 615 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,400 Andrew went to Charterhouse and Cambridge, where I study law 616 00:37:44,435 --> 00:37:46,867 I would like to be a lawyer 617 00:37:46,902 --> 00:37:49,300 and also be successful 618 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,700 At 28 years old, Andrew was a lawyer 619 00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:56,900 What qualities do you think are necessary? to be successful? 620 00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:01,100 Well, in my field you have to have legal capabilities, obviously 621 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,100 and also have good treatment with clients 622 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,800 It's not enough to be intelligent one does not know how to communicate with clients 623 00:38:09,835 --> 00:38:13,500 At 35 he was a partner 624 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,100 I work in the business department from a large law firm in the city 625 00:38:19,135 --> 00:38:21,500 I handle issues like 626 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,500 mergers and absorptions, companies, general business advice 627 00:38:25,535 --> 00:38:27,900 write transactions for clients 628 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,700 I guess the rhythm It has changed a little since... 629 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,000 With technology, people expect faster than before... 630 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:40,100 maybe not seven years ago but yes about fourteen ago 631 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,000 our practice has internationalized 632 00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:48,500 We have more business trips, we have offices in places like Sao Paolo in Brazil 633 00:38:48,535 --> 00:38:51,500 Moscow, Thailand 634 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,200 How has that affected your life? or your job? 635 00:38:56,300 --> 00:39:01,500 It means that there are more and more pressure to produce faster 636 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:05,100 - And what do you think of that? - It's okay 637 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,400 One must comply with the pressures, that's what attracts customers 638 00:39:08,435 --> 00:39:11,600 What do you think about girlfriends? at your age? 639 00:39:11,635 --> 00:39:14,600 I have one but I don't think a lot in it 640 00:39:14,635 --> 00:39:17,000 They are no longer a drag 641 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,600 "I don't want to play this" or those things 642 00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:22,800 They are the other part of the community and they are there 643 00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,500 one can start a conversation with them 644 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,100 I think that economically I do not have the same origin 645 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,900 Andrew did not look for an elegant woman but a good yorkshire girl 646 00:39:34,935 --> 00:39:37,800 but obviously knew what I wanted 647 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,300 At 28 years old, Andrew had married Jane. 648 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,700 I think my feet are right on earth and I am less extravagant than others 649 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,900 I don't go out and buy a lot of dresses. expensive, only one or two 650 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,900 I even let her pay for them! 651 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,600 I think the most important thing that has happened to me They are our two children 652 00:40:01,635 --> 00:40:06,000 Five years ago Alexander and a few years later, Timothy 653 00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:10,200 when I see them play together 654 00:40:10,235 --> 00:40:13,100 I realize how much I know have fun together 655 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,500 and I probably missed that as an only child 656 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,600 What is the most difficult thing about maintain a marriage? 657 00:40:20,635 --> 00:40:23,200 I don't think it's something particularly difficult 658 00:40:23,235 --> 00:40:25,800 We seem to be doing well 659 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,400 - Yes? - I think so, we communicate 660 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:34,300 once a week we hire a babysitter 661 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,000 and we both left alone a week day 662 00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:41,900 and I think that's important 663 00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:46,700 Are you worried about not having a race 664 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,000 and what will happen when children leave home? 665 00:40:50,035 --> 00:40:52,900 Yes, but now I have taken that decision 666 00:40:52,935 --> 00:40:55,000 and I have assumed it 667 00:40:55,100 --> 00:41:00,500 I would have a career if I wanted it. but I preferred to be a mother 668 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,400 and dedicate myself to motherhood full time 669 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:16,400 the children are on vacation and we have decided to go to New York for a few days 670 00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:22,400 I come here occasionally for work. but it is usually exhausting 671 00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:25,600 but we thought it would be good bring them 672 00:41:25,635 --> 00:41:27,300 Smile! 673 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,300 I think it's not a bad idea pay to go to school 674 00:41:31,335 --> 00:41:32,800 Because or else 675 00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:36,100 the schools would be dirty and full of children 676 00:41:36,135 --> 00:41:38,300 Yes, me too I think the same 677 00:41:38,900 --> 00:41:44,000 - and the people at school don't... - and the poor people would run away 678 00:41:44,035 --> 00:41:49,100 and the owner of the school he would get angry 679 00:41:49,135 --> 00:41:51,500 and it would remain bankrupt 680 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,700 I couldn't pay the teachers if no one pays him 681 00:41:56,735 --> 00:41:59,300 education is very important 682 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,100 one can never assure children a material inheritance, but 683 00:42:04,135 --> 00:42:08,800 at least you can make sure to give them a good education 684 00:42:08,835 --> 00:42:11,500 that's something no one can take off 685 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,600 Alexander is arriving to adolescence 686 00:42:16,700 --> 00:42:21,700 and at the end of the year he is going to take an exam to enter your next school 687 00:42:21,735 --> 00:42:24,300 a boarding school 688 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,600 in fact, he wants to go to the same school I went to 689 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,600 Timothy is going to continue for now where is currently 690 00:42:32,635 --> 00:42:35,400 and maybe do the same later 691 00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:41,100 I think that the boarding schools they make you self-sufficient 692 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,700 and they teach to be far away of the family 693 00:42:44,735 --> 00:42:47,800 to live with other people 694 00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:51,000 This will seem very strange 695 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:57,000 but if it is what he wants and helps you get what you want 696 00:42:57,035 --> 00:43:01,017 then I'm ready to see it only every three weeks 697 00:43:01,052 --> 00:43:05,000 Once I spoke with Grevil, he was in my class 698 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,100 and I asked him 699 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:13,800 to the teacher if he could get it out from my course because I always got low grades 700 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,600 I think there are more now competitiveness among children 701 00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:24,200 I don't remember much when He was smaller but... 702 00:43:24,235 --> 00:43:27,600 I feel that now they are under greater pressure 703 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,400 one looks back When we were seven years old we said... 704 00:43:35,435 --> 00:43:38,400 We are going to go to this school, to this university etc. 705 00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:41,300 but there are many places where one could have failed 706 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,500 just because we have the opportunities It doesn't mean that everything will be given to you. 707 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,300 Where do you think you could have failed? 708 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:55,300 Well, one could have abandoned the university or not withstanding the pressure of work 709 00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,100 one could not have endured the pressures of marriage 710 00:44:00,135 --> 00:44:02,300 several things can go wrong 711 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,500 And why have you achieved get ahead? 712 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,400 I guess it's my tenacity 713 00:44:11,435 --> 00:44:14,100 I don't like to give up 714 00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:19,500 Maybe also not risk it too much 715 00:44:19,535 --> 00:44:22,900 start something and not want to do nothing more 716 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:27,200 I've been at my job for 20 years and I have not wanted to dedicate myself to anything else 717 00:44:27,235 --> 00:44:33,500 When I leave this school I'll go to Collet Court 718 00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:40,200 and then I'll go to Westminster boarding school if I pass the exam 719 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:46,800 and then I think I'll go to Cambridge and Trinity Hall 720 00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:59,500 John went to Westminster and studied law at Christchurch Oxford 721 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,700 I believe that parents have the right to educate their children as they see fit 722 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,500 and I think someone that works 723 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,400 in a car factory, with a big salary 724 00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:17,900 I could pay for a private school for your children if you wanted 725 00:45:17,935 --> 00:45:22,200 At 21 years old, we asked him What career would I pursue? 726 00:45:22,235 --> 00:45:24,700 It could be in court 727 00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:27,400 Doing what? 728 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,600 In the chancellery perhaps 729 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,900 Now I have a career, I am a litigator 730 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,800 apart from that I'm moving forward at a good pace 731 00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:41,500 When boys hang out with girls they don't realize what they're doing 732 00:45:41,535 --> 00:45:45,067 For example, my grandmother had an accident because 733 00:45:45,102 --> 00:45:48,600 a boy was kissing to a girl on the street 734 00:45:48,700 --> 00:45:54,300 John married Claire, daughter from a former ambassador to Bulgaria 735 00:45:55,700 --> 00:46:00,100 has had a successful career in courts and is now Queen's Counsel 736 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,200 You have decided not to participate in this documentary 737 00:46:04,300 --> 00:46:10,200 When I leave school I could go to Dragons School 738 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:16,400 and then I could go to the Charterhouse Marlborough 739 00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:25,000 I don't remember the other places 740 00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:28,300 my mom has several but those are some 741 00:46:28,335 --> 00:46:30,300 What about the university, Charles? 742 00:46:30,335 --> 00:46:33,200 I could go to Oxford 743 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:37,600 Charles went to Marlborough but not to Oxford 744 00:46:37,635 --> 00:46:40,500 instead he went to the Durham University 745 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,500 I think it was the best because 746 00:46:43,535 --> 00:46:47,467 It looked a lot like... 747 00:46:47,502 --> 00:46:51,400 It was like high school. from Marlborough 748 00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:54,500 the conveyor belt Marlborough, Oxbridge 749 00:46:54,535 --> 00:46:57,417 and when you get to the end they throw you away 750 00:46:57,452 --> 00:47:00,300 And what did Charles want to do? 751 00:47:00,335 --> 00:47:01,600 it's hard to say 752 00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:05,150 probably scribbling texts in some basement 753 00:47:05,185 --> 00:47:08,600 for some newspaper Londoner or something 754 00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:13,200 Charles wrote for a London newspaper 755 00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:17,400 and then he went to the BBC as producer 756 00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:23,600 He is now a documentary editor scientists on Channel 4 757 00:47:23,635 --> 00:47:28,200 I decided not to participate in this documentary. 758 00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:32,600 When I grow up I want 759 00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:36,300 discover everything about the moon and those things 760 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,200 Nick, son of a farmer, grew up in the Yorkshire Dales 761 00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:45,100 I said I was interested in physics and chemistry but I'm not going to do that here 762 00:47:45,135 --> 00:47:47,667 At 14 years old he studied in a boarding school 763 00:47:47,702 --> 00:47:50,101 At 21 I was studying physics at Oxford 764 00:47:50,136 --> 00:47:52,500 What career are you going to follow? 765 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,100 That depends on if I'm good for what I want to do 766 00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:02,300 If I can, I would like to do research 767 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,500 the gas temperature in these experiments is comparable to that of the sun 768 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,600 while in a nuclear reactor it would reach up to ten times more 769 00:48:10,635 --> 00:48:14,300 we are trying to carry that gas at the melting point 770 00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:17,400 At 28 he had moved to the USA 771 00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:22,000 and was researching nuclear fusion at the University of Wisconsin 772 00:48:22,035 --> 00:48:25,400 At 35 he was an adjunct professor. 773 00:48:25,435 --> 00:48:26,800 the first 774 00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:27,900 It basically tells us that 775 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,000 the rate of change of the quasi-momentum, is DDT times this amount h bar K 776 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,100 which is equal to the Lorentz force 777 00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:40,000 If we calculate the density in any cell... 778 00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:44,100 In addition to being a full professor Now I do some administrative work 779 00:48:44,135 --> 00:48:46,200 I have been associate director from my department 780 00:48:46,300 --> 00:48:50,400 I have directed the graduate program from my electrical engineering department 781 00:48:50,435 --> 00:48:53,800 I have directed admission processes 782 00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:58,350 and manage student problems and other things in graduate school 783 00:48:58,385 --> 00:49:02,800 I have spent the last year and a half writing a couple of books 784 00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:07,100 one about the use of plasmas to process semiconductors 785 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,200 and another on semiconductors, which is called "Semiconductor devices" 786 00:49:11,235 --> 00:49:14,300 and the subtitle is "A simulational approach" 787 00:49:14,335 --> 00:49:16,400 Do you have a girlfriend? 788 00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:21,900 I don't want to answer that 789 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,700 I don't want to answer those kinds of questions 790 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,500 I thought they were going to ask that because when I had... 791 00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:33,300 when we did the other one someone said 792 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,500 "What do you think about girls?" and I said I didn't want to answer those questions. 793 00:49:36,535 --> 00:49:40,700 Is that why they ask? I thought so 794 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,350 The best answer would be to say I don't answer those kinds of questions 795 00:49:47,385 --> 00:49:51,700 was what I said when I was seven and it's still the most sensible thing 796 00:49:51,735 --> 00:49:53,900 That is, what happens to them? 797 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,500 Nick was only 17 years old. when I met him 798 00:49:56,535 --> 00:50:00,017 and I knew he was a good person 799 00:50:00,052 --> 00:50:03,500 I find it very attractive and 800 00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:08,800 use your intelligence in our relationship which is very important 801 00:50:08,835 --> 00:50:13,500 His wife Jackie, of English origin, She is a journalism professor at the university 802 00:50:13,535 --> 00:50:15,500 They have an eight year old son 803 00:50:15,535 --> 00:50:17,800 Why only one son? 804 00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:21,200 There are some reasons and one of them is that... 805 00:50:21,235 --> 00:50:25,767 our jobs demand so long 806 00:50:25,802 --> 00:50:30,300 and so much dedication It's already difficult with just one 807 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,200 He is also a very lively person. and requires so much attention 808 00:50:34,235 --> 00:50:37,300 what is difficult to have time for another 809 00:50:37,335 --> 00:50:39,300 I think that's the main one reason 810 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,400 - So you don't want another one? - Oh yes, I would love to 811 00:50:42,435 --> 00:50:45,200 have another but actually 812 00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:49,600 no, don't get me wrong, I love children 813 00:50:49,635 --> 00:50:53,900 If I wanted to change the world I would transform it into a diamond 814 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,400 but I don't think I've done anything For you to say that I am successful 815 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,600 my friends would find it ridiculous See this and find me saying 816 00:51:04,635 --> 00:51:06,900 "My God, how successful I am, look at me" 817 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,000 When I met you, I remember having I thought he was very idealistic 818 00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:14,200 but at the same time interesting when I asked you why you worked in fusion 819 00:51:14,235 --> 00:51:16,500 you said you wanted save the world 820 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:20,000 and I think now it's embarrassing but I don't think you felt the same 821 00:51:20,035 --> 00:51:23,100 for something you don't believe what did it matter 822 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,600 I always wanted to have an impact, something useful 823 00:51:28,635 --> 00:51:30,300 that it was for the benefit of the people 824 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,900 I had the image of some guys in their ivory towers 825 00:51:33,935 --> 00:51:37,400 doing things all your life without having an effect on people 826 00:51:37,435 --> 00:51:39,500 and that's not what I wanted for myself 827 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,450 so I decided to enter on the issue of merger 828 00:51:42,485 --> 00:51:45,300 because I thought I would have a great impact 829 00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:50,850 I don't expect to be in the newspapers 830 00:51:50,885 --> 00:51:56,000 that's not my ambition but just try to be realistic 831 00:51:56,700 --> 00:52:01,000 I'm going to try to stay with reasonably small wins 832 00:52:01,035 --> 00:52:05,100 They would like to pass vacations in the countryside 833 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,100 and I would like to pass vacation in the city 834 00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:11,200 Do you feel alone here? 835 00:52:11,900 --> 00:52:16,700 One tends to get stuck in routine and don't think about it 836 00:52:16,735 --> 00:52:21,100 but when you call home, you realize how far away you are 837 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:27,200 and now it seems harder because our families are aging 838 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:32,500 even if one thinks who sees them every two years 839 00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,100 - It's not much, is it? - It's like 10 times only 840 00:52:36,135 --> 00:52:37,700 and that's terrible 841 00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:42,700 This year, Nick returned to Give them to see their family 842 00:52:42,735 --> 00:52:45,700 It's been five years since that I was here 843 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,600 It has changed a lot, it has become more touristy 844 00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:55,000 and less like an agricultural area, one out of every two houses looks like it is a hotel 845 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,600 It has become difficult for my dad because most of the time he can't walk 846 00:53:01,635 --> 00:53:03,800 has had terrible problems with his legs 847 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:08,900 and agriculture has reached a miserable state so he's going to retire 848 00:53:08,935 --> 00:53:11,067 they sold the animals 849 00:53:11,102 --> 00:53:13,200 I think he has had a very hard life 850 00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:17,250 has had to work most of his life 851 00:53:17,285 --> 00:53:21,200 doing something that in the end it's not going to work 852 00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:28,000 - Would you like to dedicate yourself to the field? - No, I'm not interested. 853 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:34,100 my younger brother is deaf, if he doesn't know do nothing else could stay in this 854 00:53:34,135 --> 00:53:39,500 If you can't... as a last resort 855 00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:45,400 So your brothers won't take care from the field? 856 00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:49,200 I don't think any want 857 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:55,700 Andrew is a journalist at a newspaper and he goes to work near York 858 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,200 you're going to need to stay there, can't travel every day 859 00:54:01,300 --> 00:54:05,100 Chris was married, his wife is very good 860 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:10,000 she communicates better and better in sign language 861 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,500 and works in Skipton, he takes some computer courses 862 00:54:15,535 --> 00:54:18,300 I'm not sure what it is but he always tells me 863 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,500 that I work with computers And I think it's a good idea for him to do it. 864 00:54:22,535 --> 00:54:24,400 so I try encourage it 865 00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:27,400 So everyone left? Are there no Hitchin left here? 866 00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:32,700 Yes, it seems that the Hitchins the wings took off from here 867 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:46,700 I am the only boy in town besides my little brother 868 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:56,000 This is Arncliff School where my brother and I went between the ages of 5 and 10 869 00:54:56,035 --> 00:54:59,800 and this is the church where they baptized us 870 00:54:59,835 --> 00:55:03,800 here we went to the festivals harvest and stuff 871 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,000 What learning have you taken away? from here? 872 00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:12,300 Well one looks at this landscape and it's beautiful but... 873 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,600 not beautiful in a corny sense but rather majestic 874 00:55:17,635 --> 00:55:20,400 although rather sad 875 00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:23,700 I think if someone looked in the depths of my soul 876 00:55:23,735 --> 00:55:26,900 I would see that I have something from this place 877 00:55:26,935 --> 00:55:31,700 that is sullen but at the same time wonderful 878 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:36,500 It is relentless and sometimes rather tragic. 879 00:55:36,535 --> 00:55:41,200 but it also makes other places seem banal 880 00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:45,600 I am immensely proud having grown up here 881 00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:51,100 even people, the idea of being Dale is very important to me 882 00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:58,300 that majestic thing that looks They are the clouds that constantly pass 883 00:55:58,335 --> 00:56:02,400 air, clouds, water sweeping the sky over one 884 00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:07,400 It has a poetic side, Now I see it and think... 885 00:56:07,435 --> 00:56:09,600 How do clouds work? 886 00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:15,000 When you think about it, what I do when I solve equations 887 00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:19,800 are the same equations that describe the movement of clouds, water and air 888 00:56:19,835 --> 00:56:25,400 from the scientific point of view They are things that identify me 889 00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:34,400 - Is it difficult to be away from your roots? - Terribly difficult 890 00:56:34,435 --> 00:56:37,300 It is difficult in many ways aspects, yes... 891 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,200 you go to another culture that you don't know what happens around you 892 00:56:41,235 --> 00:56:43,500 It is very strange to go to a different country 893 00:56:43,535 --> 00:56:45,800 people do not emit the same signs 894 00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:54,000 It is very difficult to imagine to be able to come back here 895 00:56:54,100 --> 00:57:00,300 I think about it a lot but I still don't see a way to do it 896 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:10,200 In a sense it was never part of me, A part of me would love to belong here. 897 00:57:10,235 --> 00:57:13,500 but I don't really have any of it but the other thing is that... 898 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,900 I had to leave here and I think the world is like that 899 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,400 It is very difficult to stay in one place, one is forced to move constantly 900 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:29,400 The history of this century is full of examples of people who move 901 00:57:29,435 --> 00:57:33,200 for professional reasons and many others 902 00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:37,200 It is very important that people always think about... 903 00:57:37,235 --> 00:57:41,100 what happens around you and how to react to it 904 00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:47,100 Beauty is fleeting, so maybe we can come visit 905 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:53,000 but unfortunately I won't be able to stay here a long time 906 00:57:53,300 --> 00:58:54,200 (Continues in Part 2)